Federal and State Income Tax Issues, Too

The question of just selling rents or providing title has federal income tax issues as well. If a leasing company sells the payment stream on a non recourse basis and retains title then you have to look to see if the transaction is a tax lease.

 

The lessor retainsMACRS depreciation but must report as income the full discounted rent from the funding source because the non-recourse means there is no liability to return it so it becomes earned at once. Some believe that by not taking depreciation they have no quarrel with the IRS when in fact the question is “how much income to report”.

 

 As the owner you report rent income not the fee you earned. If you hold title on a true lease and sell the stream, on a non recourse basis, your income is the discounted rent amount received and it is only off set with the first years MACRS depreciation. That is why many lessors sell the title and obtain a remarketing agreement to obtain residual or purchase option rights..

 

This California sales tax question now puts an additional problem to sell or not to sell the title ..

 

Terry Winders CLP

 Leaseconsulting@msn.com

 

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This is not the first time the State Board of Equalization is visiting this

issue. I worked for a leasing company in the 70’s and early 80’s who got

“trapped by their logic.

 

Because I was a partner in a general partnership, they levied a number of partners personal bank accounts to get their money. It took 4 years to get that money back because a suit was brought.( not by us) ( Enterprise Leasing I think) and it was determined that just having the word sale in the documents between you and your lender did not constitute a sale. It was the “intent of the document and not the form” that was binding and relevant.

 

The only upside of the whole nightmare was that while the state board had our money, they were charging and paying about 5% more than banks. When it was finally resolved, our “enforced savings accounts” had all grown nicely.

I’m getting really sick of governmental agencies waking up every morning with the thought “ Who can I get money from now?”

 

Doris Tamboryn

J.G. Capital Corp.

Overtam@aol.com

 

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I’m not sure why everyone is surprised about the State of Ca’s position

on collecting tax on discounted leases.  This has always been the rule

(as far back as I can remember).

 

  There were several UAEL sessions on  the topic.  When they need more taxes, they enforce stronger.   Wasn’t there a 90 day rule (discounting took place within 90 days) that saved a lot of lessors in the past?  Someone may be able to look into the specifics to help out Bette.

 

Hope this helps.

Jim Swander

Jim Swander <jimswander@sprintmail.com>


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